DragonFly users List (threaded) for 2005-03
Re: Dragonfly and Hyperthreading....
In a message dated 3/8/2005 4:25:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, Matthew Dillon <dillon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>:In a message dated 3/8/05 4:47:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>:<cut - your'e probably right>
>:> point, Intel is still the best X86 Server platform except its CPU
>::Well thanks god their are not in the CPU biz ;-)
>:>From a price/performance standpoint Intel still leads by a wide margin.
>:You can't touch a 3.2Ghz intel system at the same price point with
>:AMD. Intel's chipsets are better, they are better supported by every
>:OS vendor, and frankly you'd have to be a complete fool, at this point
>:in time, to use anything else. You can blabber on about SMP
>:architechture all you want, but the truth of the matter is that only
>:linux has a usable SMP OS, and I doubt many of you use
>:that. Paying twice as much for (perhaps) a wee-bit more performance
>:while substantially increasing the likelihood of instability or having
>:problems is just amateurish. Unless you have nothing else to do
>:with your time.
> Well, I have the opposite opinion. I tend to prefer AMD over Intel
> and the main reason is the amount of power the systems eat and the
> amount of heat they produce. I'm sure everyone has their favorite
> horror story about melting down cpus, but in the last year I've blown
> up more Intel systems from heat then AMD (one Intel and zero AMDs,
> which means nearly none of either), so I'm not inclined to buy the
> meltdown argument. Intels do not gracefully degrade as well as Intel
> would have you believe! And my AMD boxes are no more or less stable
> then my Intel boxes, so I don't buy the stability argument either.
> I would love to see AMD be more proactive with regards to opening up
> the chipset support, but that is pretty much my only complaint.
> Equivalent AMD systems are certainly not twice as expensive as Intel.
> The premium is typically less then $100, usually due to the MB and a
> slight premium on the cpu, but that's it.
I'm sorry Matt, but you are just plain wrong. Assuming
PCI-X is a requirement, a 3.2Ghz P4 + MB is $360. and
to get equivalent performance you're looking at $700.
to $900 for a MB with an AMD processor and I'd argue that
you need more than that. If you need a 1U appliance,
you're looking at $950. base vs $440. base. There is
simply no justification for it currently.