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Re: Mailing list archive

From: Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:21:54 -0600

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:08:04 -0800, William A. Carrel wrote:

> In article <Xns94298F4B34A39justinshiningsilence@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>  "Justin C. Sherrill" <justin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> http://www.shiningsilence.com/mailarchive/
>> I put together an archive of these lists (except test), updated hourly. 
>> It's for me to link to when doing log entries, and cause it's sometimes
>> easier to browse threads after they finish.  So far, it seems to be
>> working well. 
> It would make more sense to implement a simple nntp -> http gateway.  
> That is unless news.dragonflybsd.org is expiring articles so fast that 
> it isn't an option.  (I don't believe this is the case.)  

The news.dragonflybsd.org only will have around 250 articles/mails on
each group, I just checked and the oldest one is Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:56:15
-0400 in the dragonfly.kernel group.


> One of the inherent advantages of NNTP is that it provides that archival 
> function (and usually search) just through the necessity of how it 
> works.  Not to mention the ability for administrators to cancel spam and 
> other contentless junk out of people's views (and hence the archive) 
> with no magic incantations.  You really can't do that with a mailing 
> list without a bunch of upfront work which as of yet hasn't been done.
> There are a variety of tools available for gating nntp to http.  Some 
> are, of course, more attractive to look at than others.  
> "news.gmane.org" uses the "News-Portal" program.  For efficiency, such a 
> service should probably be hosted fairly close to the NNTP server.  (As 
> an aside, despite News-Portal being PHP-based it doesn't use the 
> built-in PHP NNTP toolset which (last I checked) uses libraries from 
> UW's pine, which doesn't exactly have a stellar security track record.)
> In any case, such a service should likely be linked from the 
> www.dragonflybsd.org web pages in the forum section.

bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz.

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