Re: Remove BIND, Sendmail, Perl and etc from base?

[Richard Coleman <richardcoleman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Matthew Dillon wrote:

> :But as I mentioned earlier, it doesn't really matter.  Someone (Matt)
> :would just need to pick "anything" and bless it (put it in the base
> :system).  Once the decision is made, then there should be a push
> :to take advantage of it and "really" leverage the language for such
> :tasks as user management, package system, build system, etc.
> :
>     Well, I am a minimalist... I don't like using complex languages which
>     are dependant on lots of source files and/or third party libraries as
>     a basis for the really basic things in the system.   Case in point,
>     look at the mess that needs to be installed to get something as basic
>     as 'cvsup' working?
>
>     I don't know if there is any real merit to this thread.  You can't really
>     force particular languages onto people.  If the packaging system does its
>     job it shouldn't matter what people prefer.  We aren't going to be
>     adding more languages to the base system (or for base system builds)...
>     what we are using already is already a bit over the top.  I am in no
>     rush to remove anything either.

Yeah, I realize this thread is probably not going anywhere.  But it's a 
standard argument that had to happen sometime ;-)  I guess part of it is 
that I'm trying to get a feel for what changes you envision for 
userland, build system, release system, etc.  After reading the web 
pages, I have a pretty good understanding of where you are heading for 
the kernel.  I'm just curious about your ideas for the rest of the 
system.  I realize it is MEGA-early to be discussing this, and is 
primarily mental masturbastion at this point.

Richard Coleman