DragonFly kernel List (threaded) for 2011-09
Re: DragonFly versioning plan
Here's a summation of the thread, just cause it got long, cause some
of my original ideas have changed based on feedback, and the results
- I'm proposing changing how we do releases and handle pkgsrc
releases, since they affect each other. I'd like to move to a 1 year+
time between stable releases, and generally point people at
dragonfly-current for normal installs unless they require something as
stable as possible for production.
- This will require more MFCs back from current to stable. It will
require less release work, and reduce the amount of work required to
sync binary pkgsrc packages.
- I would switch to building pkgsrc binaries of the latest stable
quarterly pkgsrc release on DragonFly stable only. (They would be
usable on DragonFly-current without spurious warnings at this point,
assuming the major release number for DragonFly is the same on stable
- I would build pkgsrc-current on DragonFly-current, catching any
problems in compilation sooner.
We have several wrinkles that have prevented this, listed with
mitigating factors -
- pkg_install will refuse to install binary packages built on a newer
release of pkg_install, so it requires manual intervention to move
between quarterly releases. I think that will be solved either in
pkgsrc (talking to Joerg S. about it) or as a feature of pkgin
(talking to iMil about it).
- The intersection between 6-month DragonFly releases and 3-month
pkgsrc quarterly releases made timing difficult. Going to a rolling
release makes synchronization issues happen less often, or go away,
depending on how smoothly we can build.
- Less releases means less press from a version number change, but I'd
argue they aren't that effective, especially when we don't a major
feature to match the number change. I would argue that we need to
trumpet new features, as vkernels or Hammer are far more complex than
a version bump.
Any other feedback? Francois, you had the longer list of objections;
does this feel more like it's on the right track?