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Re: USB image

From: Tron <tron@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:40:54 -0700

   Thanks Dylan, it is clear now.
   However, given your example of those other Linux ditro's, I am wondering why the DF group decided to build their images this way if there is an alternative.  I mean if DF seriously  wants to expand its ranks the best way is from the herds of Windows users and most of them know nothing about Unix.  So the easier the route to see what DF can do - the more likely is someone to put in the effort.  With this USB example alone: first, a newbie has to get the USB image, second realize (probably the hard way 'cause there is no mention of this on the download page) that the writing app is completely different from the one they use to write their CD images with and ultimately see that even though the DF image is small he can't move anything else onto the flash disk (which may be particularly frustrating if they only have the big one they just bought)...  I think it is easy to see how many novices may get discouraged with DF and give up almost before they began.  Fortunately, I am strongly motivated, have been to DF's IRC channel before and have finally succeeded in signing up on this help list (which also wasn't the most straight forward thing ever... and could not have happened without my knowledge of IRC).  My point is, I think you are a great bunch of guys who have done one hell of a job, but if you want to attract not just the most experience computer users, the route from A-B, never mind from A-Z should be easier.

Many thanks,

On 9/28/2010 8:56 PM, Dylan Reinhold wrote:
  Yes you are correct this would completely re write the stick with this image.
The way DFly build their USB images means this is the only way.
I know some Linux distro's have some ways to allow you to drop the files on a fat[32] formated drive and run a command to boot.

So when you want you disk back do will need to refomat it, saveing the current image might work also.

Hope this helps,

On 09/28/2010 05:42 PM, Tron wrote:
An off the shelf flash drive allows standard copy operations of files under windows.  I imagine that writing a non win OS image would erase everything on that flash drive making it unusable for further storage of other (windows) data.  I don't know if USB flash drives are formated for NTFS, FAT32 or what but if I should want to use this drive under windows again, would I have to reformat it after DF (kind of like a hard drive)?  Or make an image of an empty USB drive for ease of later restoration before I through on a DF image?  Or is it possible to reserve space on a large USB for diff OS's (like partitioning HD's), or..?  (Hope the question isn't too idiotic but I haven't done anything like this with flash drives before).

On 9/26/2010 4:21 PM, Dylan Reinhold wrote:

On 09/26/2010 01:32 PM, tron wrote:
 If I want to copy the DF USB image onto my USB
stick and I am working under WinXP, can I open the
archive with 7zip and just copy the resulting
files/folders to the stick or will I need a special app
for installing the image to the USB stick?  (Sorry if
this sounds dumb, but I am only used to the world
of Windows and the handbook on DF page only
discusses installation with CD.)

You should be able to use Image Writter


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